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MICROSOFT - G78-00008

Microsoft Visual C#.NET Standard Edition 2002
Best Price:$49.99


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Microsoft Visual C# .NET Standard
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DO NOT BUY FOR CE.NET
The Amazon quote above is misleading "On-screen emulator for Pocket PC applications". Now wouldn't that statement lead you to believe that you can build and test applications for the Pocket PC using this package. Well don't believe it. It states it clearly on the Box that "build device-based applications and solutions" is not part of this package and will require Visual Studio.net Professional is required. They fool you by allowing you to build ASP.NET pages to be displayed on the CE.NET device using the web browser. Of course you can just as easily do this with a simple text editor. Unfortunately I had already opened the box by the time I realized that the Amazon web page was lying and as a result I now own another piece of software that has no value for me and get to go spend a bunch more money to buy Visual Studio Professional to do a job that Amazon claimed this packaged could accomplish. The tragic thing is that you can accomplish nothing with this package that you can not do just as easily with the free Microsoft download and a decent text editor. For that matter I have already written and tested tens of thousands of lines of C# code and the CSC command line compiler. I only purchased this package because I wanted to compile and test for windows CE devices as the statement above would indicate that you accomplish. Amazon words their return policy so that I can not return this even though it was their false or at best misleading advertising that caused me to purchase and install the product. This is a great a way to ruin my loyalty as a customer. Companies wonder why their customers are violating copyright agreements to avoid paying for software, well in my mind somebody owes me the cost of this worthless package so how excited am I going to be to pay either company the next time around. The golden rule could be used here: "If you want me to treat you fairly then you should treat me fairly." joe@xdobs.com
1Today
One major drawback.
I love the .NET framework and the C# language. However, one thing that just flat out [made me angry] when I got this in the mail was the fact that you could not connect to any database othre then MS Access and SQL Desktop Addition through the Database connection wizard. I can not think of any reason whatsoever that Microsoft would have done something like this, but it made me extreamly aggravated. I use the Enterprise version at work, and purchased the Standard Edition for my home seeing that I only really use the C# language any more and did not need all of the extras that came with higher priced versions. I imagine that there are several other people out there just like me who would want to do the same, and I just think that it was a bad mistake on Microsoft's part. You can still make connections using handwritten code, but at the same time, is that not going against the point of buying a piece of software such as this; to cut out as much handwritten coding as possible?
4Today
Nice for the price
As others have said, you can't beat the price, and you'll actually own a legal copy of a Visual Studio product. Perfect if you want to write your own little program and sell it on the side :) If you're not familiar with C#, then you'll definitely need a book to get you started -- I recommend Programming Windows in C# by Charles Petzold and Inside C# by Tom Archer. It's a very fun language to program in -- has many of the same concepts as Java. You can also interoperate with the Win32 API and COM. The editor itself is awesome -- it automatically indents the curly braces and lets you set up colors and all that, like Visual C++ 6.0. It has something new called outlining -- which means you can collapse and expand whole sections of code by clicking on the little pluses. You can also enter XML comments, which means it can automatically generate XML-formatted documentation. The one thing that's a drag is that you can only create certain types of applications in the IDE: Windows apps, command-line apps, ASP.NET Web applications, and web services. This means you can't create a Forms control or a DLL in the environment. (But you can do it on the command line, if you take the time to read the documentation.)
4Today
c#??? Java I suppose...
The ide, the compiler and the whole package itself is great. The shame is that what microsoft calls c# is only java... Too lame... By the way it's as good as java, so it has all its pro and its bad sides
1Today
Installing problems
I tried to install the program in two different machines, one with windows 2000 pro and the other with Windows XP Pro. When I run the application I got the error message the application cannot run. I then click on help but the windows does not allow me to see the message behind, being impossible to move it. I am disappointed.
1Today
Great for the money
Its nice to have a sub-100$ entry point to this language. The package is limited in the number of projects you can start with (such as Windows Services), but there is plenty of starter code on the web to get around that. Very nice package for the money.
5Today
Absolute awe.
I took a look and I couldnt believe the combination of J++ and C++! It does what it promises. The code is clean and powerful. I will need some more time with C# to get a better opinion, but so far I am impressed.
4Today
It's Java, pure and simple!
I've been working through the 'Visual C# .Net Step by Step' book (which is a really well written and structured book) and am really shocked at the audacity of Microsoft. This is Java renamed by the Microsoft marketing department. I'm amazed that there hasn't been more outrage expressed by the developer community at the utter plagiarism of a very elegant and popular programming language. In one word: shameful.
3Today
Fine Product, but....
I was somewhat disappointed to find that there doesn't seem to be any way to build Web applications with this product running under XP Home Edition. Building ASP.NET apps seems to require IIS, an XP Professional-only feature (I believe; I'm not a guru by any means). Still, there is much to like, foremost being the power of C with the simplicity of VB. Professional programmers would probably find more to about which to gripe (as usual), but for those of us who program mainly to help solve on-the-job problems, this package packs a lot of power for [the money]!
4Today
Love C#
If you are an experienced programmer - move over Java and C++, C# is a great new tool you'll absolutely want to know. If you're a beginner - C# is a superb product. And the newspapers back me up, I believe they said it's doubled in sales in the last 3 months. A very solid language with a great programming environment - Visual Studio .NET, that makes it easier to learn. C# isn't hard to learn, but you really need to learn the .NET Framework to do real programming in it. The .NET Framework has all kinds of add-on capabilities, sort of like having pre-programmed pieces that you add on to C#. It comes with the .NET Framework, but is really a separate, and essential, piece to learn.
5Today

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