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Quicken 2003 for MAC

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Quicken 200x... While the promise of this software is great, the reality is unfortunate, at least for me... It does some things very, very well - such as download & categorize bank & visa transactions... It unfortunately lacks functionality & features in other areas that they appear to market the software for, particularly in the investment area... features I'd liek to see: - foreign exchange for investments (stick to your local $ only!) - non-proprietary import/export formats - easy, accurate cross platform data exchange - H+B option (also hurts import/export across platforms) - adjusted cost base reporting for canadian investments (or why bother!?) - tax categorization for canadians (should be an easy graft from the pc version) - fewer flaws (not just 'bugs') in some feature executions - eliminate 'sunset' (terminating) download capability & 'planned obsolescence' - similar PC/Mac interfaces many more advanced & better features seem to exist in the pc version & while neither seems truly intuitive, I can only suggest that aligning the two platforms (and offering an H+B mac version) might help generate the sales that would justify the R+D... Chicken or egg question? Absolutely! You can't expect sales if the software doesn't work or is misrepresented in the marketing!	1	Today
Why monopolies are bad I switched from Windows (XP) to Mac OS X. Everything is better on the Mac, save Quicken. I used Quicken 2001 on my PC, so I expected Quicken 2003 for Macs to be an improvement. Wrong. Quicken 2003 doesn't allow for as much customization of views as the PC version of two years earlier. Also, there's no home inventory, which Quicken 2001 for my PC had. Most importantly, I am can't upload my portfolio and balances to Quicken's website, which is one of the features I used to use the most. I had been in contact with a tech at Intuit's support group, but he eventually stopped responding to my e-mails. It doesn't crash on me regularly, but it does occur more often than with any of my other programs. Two years down the road and the software is worse. Unfortunately, everything I've read about 2004 actually makes it sound worse! Too bad there are no other options - a little compeition might force Intuit to actually improve its product.	2	Today
Comprehensive but not stable!!! Quicken 2003 for Mac came load on my eMac so I decided to give it a try. I've always kept my financial records on an old fashioned spreadsheet so I thought this would be an easy and more excititing way of tracking my budget. After spending a couple of evenings learning about the program and getting it set up it closed unexpectedly on me. After that I could open it but if I clicked on the Banking tab or tried to review my budget it would close again. I checked the Quicken on line support but could not find the help I needed there. Eventually I discovered that I could open a backup copy of my data and that seemed to solve the problem. So I started working from the backup copy. Once again I was now setting up my catagories and shifting some into sub catagory positions when it closed again - same problem all over. The problems I'm having seem to be primarily related to setting up the catagories so once I get through that process I may be ok. I had no problems setting up the autodown load from my bank. It turns out I have to download my credit card information in a .qif file and then import it. That takes a couple extra steps but it worked fine also. Good luck!	3	Today
Quicken use to be THE best of all programs When Quicken first came out, it was simple, straightforward and rock solid. Over the years it has become more and more of everything except simple and rock solid. This is now a beast which rears its ugly head at all the worst moments. If it has not crashed on you yet, it will one day. So what? Every application crashes once in a while, you say? Perhaps. But Quicken has a magical ability to take a crash and turn it into corrupted data. Once the data file has a little corruption in it everything just gets worse and worse. Crashes come more frequently and then suddenly a checking or credit card account tells you it is "out of balance" and a prior period needs to be re-reconciled. Ok, but when you try to do this it either will not let you or it appears in every way to be correct, but insists it is not. At that point the only way out involves significant reentry of data OR an expensive submission of your file to Intuit tech support for "cleaning." To top it all off, your confidence in your data is shaken badly. All you can think of is the possibility of ever needing to "redo the work again" another time. I love the Quicken I remember, and this product probably still is that good until things go wrong. Once wronged, however, it is more than torturous to recover from. If you proceed, and you probably will because Intuit has a virtual lock on the personal finance market, you must be careful to back up after EVERY session. Even more critical is the need to return to the last clean backup immediately IF your file EVER crashes. Do NOT ever continue to use a crashed file or you will be very sorry. Very sorry. The truly disheartening fact is Intuit continues to sell us an application containing the same bugs in version after version. They add a handful of features each year to tempt us to part with another chunk of change, but we keep seeing the same pimples and quirks carried forward. Many of us update our copy each year not to get any new features, but in the hopes they actually fixed our least favorite bug. All too often they have not, but we keep hoping.	2	Today
Avoid Quicken 2003 for Mac at all costs! This is my first Amazon review, but I just had to chime in with others who have used Quicken for 10+years now because I am so frustrated with this version. My entire financial life is in Quicken Mac, and I am SO unhappy that I upgraded to 2003. My 12MB file with the last 10+ years of my life (loans, investments, credit cards, rental properties, etc. -- probably one of the larger Quicken files around) is at risk. You can't go back once you upgrade. Save yourself the aggravation, and wait for something better than 2003, unless you really don't mind starting over from scratch if things get hosed. I have a G4 and a PC. The two primary things I still do (only) on the Mac are Quicken and iPhoto, and I feel locked-in to both programs. However, I'm very seriously considering dumping Quicken 2003 for Mac and moving to the Quicken for Windows. I never thought I'd ever do that, but this version of Quicken continues to annoy me every time I use it. Worse, it is starting to make me question the validity of my data. It crashes doing simple QuickReports (inexcusable), there are countless UI bugs like when hopping from one transaction to another or scrolling, there's no way to see the list of downloaded transactions once you've reconciled (as there was in previous versions), and loading my United Mileage Plus credit card transactions is more painful than ever as of Q2003: The browser link that Quicken launches is obsolete, meaning I have to manually log in. Then I have to manually enter the download dates, save to a .QFX file, and manually import that into Quicken (since downloading that file no longer auto-imports it into Quicken). In addition, it is darn near impossible to get some banking transactions to "match up" with entries I already have in my register. I've never been able to figure out why, but I end up accepting the downloaded transaction and deleting the one I entered (or one that was auto-entered as a scheduled transaction) because Quicken refuses to acknowledge that they're the same transaction. This is especially annoying for loan-related transactions. Investment tracking is also messed up. Capital gains reports are inaccurate (forcing me to re-enter everything manually in Excel at tax time) -- just moving shares from one brokerage to another resets the purchase date and throws off short/long term calculations. In addition, some of my mutual fund transactions seem to be missing (despite my reconciling each and every statement), leaving my Schwab register hopelessly unreconcileable. Finally, Quicken has NEVER handled employee stock option or employee stock purchase plan transactions (with the funky withholding that goes along with them) very well. I have to wonder if anyone at Intuit has ever tried to enter their own stock transactions. Switching to Windows won't be easy or fun. Intuit's suggestion is to simply "export everything to QIF and re-import on the other side". However, there are so many things that don't export that you're guaranteed a mess after you import the QIF files (like account to account transactions, as I recall). I fear I'm going to have to write off my 10 years of data, maybe export my banking and credit card transactions (just to maintain the history), fudge the balances to get a good starting point, and then gradually start over. With over 50 active accounts, this will not be easy or fun and I resent having to waste the time to do it. The only plus is that I've tried to simplify my life and I won't have to bother entering old data from old (hidden) accounts that are no longer in use. Intuit NEEDS to create a migration tool (Mac to Win or Win to Mac, as I've seen reviews from people who have tried to go either way) that seamlessly translates one format to the other without losing any data. In addition, a repair utility would be very welcome. With all of the crashes I've encountered, I'm sure there are problems in my data file. However, there is no way to validate or repair a Quicken file short of exporting and re-importing, and as already mentioned you're probably better off starting over from scratch. I, too, have beta tested Quicken Mac in the past (and presented bugs to Intuit some of which were even fixed, as well as done user experience testing for Intuit), but this is a tough program to test with real-life data. The 2003 beta program (like other recent ones) required a one-way upgrade to the new format, and suggested that you keep both the old and new versions up to date with the same transactions. I couldn't understand HOW to do this when downloading online transactions (and especially with regard to making online payments), and they offered no help on the matter. So, I guess I partially blame myself for not being more active in this beta and providing more feedback. Somehow, I doubt it would've made a difference. Adopting a program like this, for some of us, is a serious proposition. Not having a way out (e.g. migration to the presumably more stable and better maintained Windows version) is a real shame. As a software engineer, I understand that deadlines are often more important (to a company with an annual release schedule) than quality and sometimes it means bugs are often deferred (or maybe not even found). It's unfortunate that that really seems to have been the case with Quicken Mac 2003. I wish there was a more direct line of communication (for reporting and resolving bugs) with the company for those of us who are serious heavy-duty users of this software. If you're one of those people, you should avoid Quicken 2003 for Mac. UPDATE 9/24/03: The early reports seem to indicate that Quicken Mac 2004 is no better than 2003. I've since purchased Quicken Windows 2004 and am trying to figure out just how much of my data I'm going to attempt to migrate (vs. leaving behind forever on the Mac). It all comes down to how much time I want to spend massaging, re-typing, and reconciling my transactions, one miserable account at a time...	1	Today
DON"T DO IT I have been using Quicken 2000 Deluxe for years on a PC and recently switched to the Mac. Before this, I loved Quicken and I'm great at using it. After hours of trying to get my account balances to match up after moving them over, I give up. Whats more, in the Mac version there is no easy screen to give you a synopsis of everything going on in Quicken like there is in the PC version. Even more of a travesty is that Quicken 2003 for the Mac does not know what a 401(k) account is. There are no wizards to help set up a 401k account, much less to update one, so if you want to keep your 401k accounts current, you may have to take a class on manual 401k entries. I'm so frustrated by this product that I have decided to actually keep my PC solely to run Quicken 2000. One more thing - in the Mac the font sizes are so small you need special glasses to read your data. If you are currently using Quicken on the PC and want to switch to it on the Mac, you'll be disappointed. I wish I would have known this before I bought the software.	1	Today
A Good Product - But not as robust as the WIndows Version I recently switched from Windows to Mac and after reading the negative reviews here about this product I purchased it with trepidation. Quicken 2003 for the Mac has worked well for me. I have not encountered any bugs but the program is basic compared with the Windows version. I miss the page that summarizes all financial information. Yet the Mac version does the job and I am happy to have it for my Mac. I find it runs very smoothly.	3	Today
Just as good as always... I'm not sure why some other reviewers have said they've had issues. My was a clean install with no problems whatsoever. And after 10 months, I have yet to have any difficulty with it. I've even set up my Roth IRA, 401k, Rollover IRA, and some other investments with little pain and effort. And it goes out and updates my portfolio with the click of a button. I've even got my PC friends to start using Quicken. They're obsessed with seeing where they've been spending their money. It's another quality product for Intuit with great ease use packaged with a nice Aqua interface.	5	Today
Bugs galore You just cannot trust your finances to this program. Bugs pop up everywhere, for example transactions get randomly deleted. Intuit has no competition for the Mac and thus they put absolutely no effort into developing a decent program. Sure there are other basic money management programs out there but nothing with the features of Quicken (at least the ones that work) that anyone with loans, investments etc... need. I was a beta tester for them in the past but would not waste my time doing it again.	1	Today
Looks nicer than Windows version EASY and FAST! i just "switched" to Mac from Wintel/Linux and I am getting some programs converted. YOU MUST INSTALL THE UPDATES! I went into Quicken 2003 and went to File and clicked on Check for updates this brought down Patch R4 - EASY install. After that I opened help and learned how to convert my Wintel Quicken to Mac Quicken by exporting the QIF file (emailed it to the Mac - no floppy) - EASY import into Quicken for Mac. Then I setup my online accounts and starting using it. All in all I am happy with Mac Quicken coming from Win Quicken. It like everything else on a Mac looks cleaner but you'll find somethings they left out on the Mac version like the main screen that gives you a synopsis of everything and a overall chart. Oh yeah don't believe everything people are saying on these reviews Mac downloads at the same rate the Windows version does - I tested this! Good product! Macs and Unix rule!	5	Today

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